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I made a jump to something non microsoft and am trying out Lindows. I saw an ad for a super cheap AMD system at Fry's and decided to get it. The only catch so to speak is that it doesn't have any Windows OS on it, but runs Linspire

wawadave · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject:

to test your computer is linux ready d/l knoppix iso burn it to cd reboot
make sure cd drive is first boot device in bios!
get knoppix here!
http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=44

those on dial up by a knoppix cd cheaply here.
http://www.osheaven.net/index.htm?catalog.htm&1
or
http://www.linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-317&id=C1CxB01FodgCL

intel compatable in linux allso means amd compatablr. but not mac!

i366 =intel ,amd!
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Moore · Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:52 am Post subject:

Sounds good guys , Very Happy

Nick · Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:

I'm running on Knoppix right now as I post this. I definately would suggest this as a way to check out Linux. Nothing to install and simple to do.
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Nick · Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v149/Nick0423/SWWknoppix.jpg

Picture may be big.
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herbalist · Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:

Dave,
Interesting looking package. Think I'll download 3.6 and give it a try. While downstate at a friends last weekend, I made use of their cable internet and downloaded that SUSE Linux you posted a link to, along with a copy of FreeBSD 5.3.
Did I see that right about Knoppix? It doesn't need anything installed, runs straight off the CD?
Rick

wawadave · Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:23 pm Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:

My main complaint so far about Linspire is that you are sort of forced to use the CNR thing it comes with to install programs, and the CNR service is not free. It is pretty cheap at $19.95 US for 6 months, which includes unlimited downloads. However, not everything you may want is included as part of the CNR service, Firefox for Linux is not, for example. Linspire does come with regular Mozilla already, though.

So you could be paying for programs that are free by paying for the CNR service that you would get completely free on other Linux flavors. It is important to note that installing programs on Linux involves more than clicking a setup program like in Windows and could be really difficult for most people. So the CNR service can easily pay for itself, since it does make a one click install possible.

I liked trying out Knoppix, that disc came loaded with all kinds of goodies. Open office, mp3 player, image programs, lots of games, and even a planatarium program. All without installing anything.
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Moore · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:35 am Post subject:

Knoppix sounds better than linspire Nick , might need to change the title of the thread lol.. Cool

wawadave · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject:

Linspire is based on Debian Linux. I have come across something about how you can get around the install issue by getting something or another for Debian and then you can install w/out a problem without having to use CNR.

HA ha Moore. I still got a nice box to put another Linux distro on as well as Win 2k.
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wawadave · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject:

knoppix can be installed to the hard drive. never bother pursueing it.
from the knopix cd. there are a few sites that explain how.
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herbalist · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:04 am Post subject:

I wish I had a few spare boxes to play with. Other than going to a dual boot, my only option is to swap hard drives, a project in itself when my main unit already has 3 small ones in it now, all in use.
Frustrating.

Nick · Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

Dual boot isn't that hard. I don't see how I got along without multiple OS's on one box now. Both my Windows 2000 and Linspire discs have the ability to add a partition to install their respective OS. I did use the Win2k one the 1st time I installed it alongside ME and had zero problems. I took a look at the Linspire cd to see what it would do and it did give an option to make a partition, although I haven't actually done that yet.
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herbalist · Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject:

Setting up a dual boot system is something I know very little about. Until very recently, I was running a single 5.1gb hard drive with less than 700mb of free space on it. Didn't have to worry about adding another OS. No room. Since then, I've added a 4gb on the primary slave and a 1.6gb on the secondary slave. After the last wierd incident (or attack, which it was, I'm still not sure, just know 1.6gb of files were gone), I moved most of my security apps to the second drive and encrypted the 3rd. Either way, I'll still have to completely re-arrange the whole thing, again, just to fit another OS in one place. Wouldn't be so bad if it didn't take so long to re-install everything. I do have a copy of 98SE now. Maybe I should use it and "upgrade" the windows OS too. Razz

No matter which way I go, It's a lot to do. For right now, I'm going to finish downloading Knoppix and see if it runs on this relic. Another 28 hours of downloading and it'll be done. Rolling Eyes

Definitely an excercise in patience, but wouldn't have got it any quicker if I'd sent for it.
Rick

wawadave · Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject:

darn near a full cd your d/ling!!!!!
hope it works for you.
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herbalist · Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject:

wawadave · Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:

i have had knoppix on a computer i was building that did not have a hard drive in it just mobo ram cpu and heatsink fan cd-rw psu it had on board vid,lan,sound . stuck cd in well checking out bios and rebooted.
knoppix fired right up posted to here from koncorer.
i have another dinosour mother board and parts i have built and no hard drive i perpously go to bad sites to see what there trying to inject from there page codeing lol. most they can do is infect the ram and thats clear on reboot. it a laugh !!!!
i have has one place try to active ly hack it well i was there.
lol. i like mandrake suse and redhat. not fedora.

well good luck!!
Very Happy

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Nick · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject:

System requirements for knoppix are pretty low:

* Intel-compatible CPU (i486 or later).
* 20 MB of RAM for text mode, at least 96 MB for graphics mode with KDE, and at least 128 MB of RAM to use the various office products.
* A bootable CD-ROM drive or a boot floppy and a standard CD-ROM drive (IDE/ATAPI or SCSI).
* Standard SVGA-compatible graphics card.
* Serial or PS/2 standard or IMPS/2-compatible USB-mouse.

Probably the hardest thing for you Rick to do is to download it.
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herbalist · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:07 am Post subject:

Finally got Knoppix downloaded and burned. It locks up during the bootup. Checked the MD5 to the one on the site, doesn't match. First time Star Downloader didn't get it right and I'm not doing this a second time. Think I'll make that part of the price on the next cable connected computer I service. Just a bit bummed.

Moore · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject:

Hey also keep your eye out for any computer magazines with program coverdiscs Rick..

I downloaded knoppix a few weeks back on dialup Exclamation

and then found I already had it on two different magazine cd's when I was moving house last weekend.... lol Rolling Eyes

linc · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject:

After trying various flavours of Linux
ie. Mandrake.Red Hat,SuSe and Debian,
and only managing to get one installed, think that was Debian, I decided to take the plunge with Linspire.
Ordered it on Friday arrived this morning.[monday]
Decided to have my usual siesta before attempting, managed 20 minutes before the phone rang and got me off the bed. so I thought I might as well install.

I was already prepared for the muttering, what did I do wrong etc. instead it installed smoothly in about 10 minutes. I allowed it to be the only system, so it wiped windows and installed all within 10 minutes.

Haven't got as far as finding the registry to see if windows is still lurking.

There was only a couple of things I had to type in, there was none of the rebooting as in windows, it installed then rebooted.ONCE.

When it did reboot, up popped a window with a load of tutorials, Internet connection was simply plugging in the cable.

I've got all favourite sites booked, such as this one..

I'll spend sometime tonight seeing if I get pop ups,etc.

To some people the downside might be the price, I paid £58.00. which included a years subscription to the warehouse, where there are about 2,000 programmes, most free but some costing. The joy of the system is when you d/l it installs the programme, so it's true what they say 1 click to d/l and install.

Linspire comes with a built in firewall, the only anti-virus prog costs though..

It is different to windows , so I'll have to experiment on doing things different. I managed to get the email prog working with no problem.

All in all, if a dumb ass like me can do it, anyone can.

You can take a look at it, they have a Linspire Live programme like Knoppix.

I don't know much about Virus's, keyloggers etc so whether I'll get attacked or whether the system will reject any attempts I'll wait and see.

My last word on this it looks nice, stable and has much in it than windows, without bloating it up.

I got mine here in uk.

http://www.linuxuk.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=37
others just google Linspire
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herbalist · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject:

I'm giving downloading Knoppix another try tonite, except this time I'm doing it at another persons house, monthly "service call," who happens to have the 3mb cable service. I'll call it a fair trade.

herbalist · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:07 am Post subject:

Finally got a copy of Knoppix on CD. Upon trying it the first time, I found it wasn't a bootable CD, just a copy of the image. Her burning software is a little strange. Something that came with the unit and seems more intended for music. Fine. I figured I'd just copy the image and use my burner to burn it in the right format. Decided to check the MD5 before going thru this again. It matches, the german version.
I can't believe I did that! Brick wall

Rick

Nick · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

Don't feel bad, I made a copy of the image the 1st time too...
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blender · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:35 am Post subject:

herbalist · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:27 am Post subject:

Having to reburn the image was just an inconvenience. What I can't believe is that I downloaded it in German instead of English. I can't read it.

wawadave · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject:

you could still burn it to cd and see if it boots up. the icons are faily self explanatory. you tell if it wil work you may even begiven the choice of english or german or other language on boot up.
i know mine asks what language when it boots.
allthough it may just be german Sad

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herbalist · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:

I did reburn it, and it does boot up. Mozilla opens, but I can't read how to make it work with my modem. I'm at a friends now, downloading it in english. Can't find a option to make this thing burn bootable CDs. Will probably have to reburn this one too, after I figure out a few other issues I managed to cause on mine. Too many experiments most likely.
Rick

wawadave · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject:

hello
you need to make his burner burn the iso as an image file.
what burning program?
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herbalist · Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject:

Music Match is what opened when I used the right click menu. There was an entry something like "burn to CD" on it. Didn't see any other options to use. I brought the image home, copied it and burned it again here.
Having a hard time getting Knoppix to read my modem. It's the original internal one that came with this relic, a Rockwell HCF 56K Data Fax PCI Modem. This is all on hold right now anyway. Too much else going at the moment.