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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Ben Edelman on Current IAC\Ask Toolbar Practices Reply with quote

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Last year I documented Ask toolbars installed without consent as well as by targeting kids. Ask staff claimed both practices were unacceptable, and promised to make them stop. Unfortunately, Ask has not succeeded.

In Current Practices of IAC/Ask Toolbars, I document notable current Ask practices. I show Ask ads running on kids sites and in various noxious spyware, specifically contrary to Ask's prior promises. I document yet another installation of Ask's toolbar that occurs without user notice or consent. I point out why Ask's toolbar is inherently objectionable -- especially its rearrangement of users' browsers and its excessive pay-per-click ads to the effective exclusion of ordinary organic links. I compare Ask's practices with its staff's promises and with governing law -- especially "deceptive door opener" FTC precedent, prohibiting misleading initial statements even where clarified by subsequent statements.

Ben Edelman

Interview by Suzi on Spyware Confidential of Ben Edelman on the subject

And lets not forget about the other items regarding AIC and FunWeb from last month, by Bill P of WinPatrol:
http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2006/09/who-is-behind-stopbadwareorg.html

Their reply:
http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2006/09/response-from-mywebsearch.html

My Stopbadware post, noticably ignored:
http://groups.google.com/group/stopbadware/msg/30966837a85bc988

On my site I have them all linked too:
http://temerc.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2672
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting that, TeMerc.

This is a complicated piece -- so many of Ask's practices calling for investigation, documentation, and criticism. I'm here to answer questions if any arise. Meanwhile, Ask has yet to offer a response or statement of any kind.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Edelman wrote:
Thanks for posting that, TeMerc.

This is a complicated piece -- so many of Ask's practices calling for investigation, documentation, and criticism. I'm here to answer questions if any arise. Meanwhile, Ask has yet to offer a response or statement of any kind.

No problem, Ben any time.

And I suppose they will ignore this as they did the Stopbadware post too.

The guilty can't say much in the face of proof, now can they?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More from BillP, and he links to Ben's article and Suzi's interview as well.

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What is Zwinky?

“It’s a world of fun. All in one toolbar.”
I recently wrote about Zwinky and how it installs the MyWebSearch Tool bar from a company called IAC Interactive. While I recommended folks remove the MyWebSearch Toolbar it didn’t seem to bother Ask.com which is also owned by IAC.

I found this week that going to Ask.com and entering “What is Zwinky” the top listing isn’t the Zwinky website. Instead the top listing is a link to my Bits from Bill Blog. Now that’s what I call a FunWebProduct!

Bits From Bill
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's alot to read up on, (read all the links) but very helpful for us cleaning the junk out.
Thanks Ben and TeMerc
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And not blocked by the company proxy...oh gads, I hope my users don't find this.
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