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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Microsoft's position on "spyware" Reply with quote

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What you should know about spyware

Posted: April 16, 2004

We've all heard the cliche, "There's no such thing as a free lunch." This is as true on the Internet as anywhere else. Whether it's through advertising, or through the use of your personal information, you're going to have to pay somehow. The key is to understand what you're agreeing to and what you're willing to pay for something that claims to be free.

There's a new type of software out there that you may have heard about. It's called spyware and the most common way it gets on your computer is when you are downloading something else that claims to be free.


http://www.microsoft.com/security/articles/spyware.asp
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They link to Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware 6 on the page. There may be hope for MS yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
They link to Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware 6 on the page. There may be hope for MS yet.


That is because they can't get a hacking programmer that already has a ready made diffinitions database and detection software they could afford Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Calimity Ken thanks for the link

Helped me more than one could quess.

At work I am the person who was made incharge of the computers ( and thats are real scary scenerio Wink ). I have been fortifying the one PC that we use for dialup with anti-malware software. My employers and others think I am a little over the top when I try to explain the present malware problem on the net. They are an older couple and it is very difficult to even know where to start too explain.

A couple of days ago they saw the ad-aware program on the screen and in a round about way questioned what it was doing on the computer , so I tried to explain what it did and thier faces went blank and then they said i should be documenting what i put on the computer ( which I should, I have many other responsibilties also and time is not a luxury).

Anyhow I printed the link told them to read it and showed them that Microsoft linked to ad-aware.

Well in their minds since MS linked to Ad-aware's site then what i have been doing is alright. What I didn't tell them was, generally when MS says something I am highly suspusious at best. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if ms said the sun was shineing i would go look my self! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived across Lake Washington from Redmond, there won't be any sunshine there for another month or so. How would they know what the sun is doing?


If you haven't lived in Seattle, this may go over your head.



But it is nice to see Microsoft mentioning them. It does lend credibility to Ad-Aware and Spybot.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lived on vancouver island for 15 years i know what its like there.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
i just got a news letter (blatant advertizement from microsucks).
this seems to be there stand on spyware after all read and see if you saw what i did.

Microsoft Fights Spyware

by Arie Slob

Hello Windows users,

Deceptive software, commonly known under the term "Spyware" have long been a problem for computer users. Deceptive software include programs which change your browsers home page without your permission, generate random pop up advertisements, or in some cases dial toll numbers, running up your telephone bill.

These programs have a number of (sneaky) ways to get into your computer. A common used "trick" these days is that this software is covertly installed during the installation of other software, such as file sharing programs, or downloaded via unsolicited junk e-mail.

According to Microsoft's Brian Arbogast, corporate vice president of the Identity, Mobile and Partner Services Group within Microsoft's MSN and Personal Services Division, deceptive software causes more than 50 percent of Windows operating systems failures reported to Microsoft, though rarely do people realize the cause of their problem. Microsoft collects the data electronically from the PCs of users of Windows who agree to share data about their system problems.

At a day-long Federal Trade Commission workshop Monday to increase understanding about deceptive software, Microsoft and other industry leaders detailed for U.S. regulators how they are working to reduce the threat of so-called "spyware."

Microsoft has launched a new informational Website to educate users, and pointed out enhancements in the Microsoft Windows XP operating system that are designed to provide people better control of their PCs.

Windows XP Service Pack 2 (which is expected to be released this June), includes a pop-up ad blocker for Internet Explorer, which also includes new technology that will suppress unsolicited software downloads, and tools to view & control browser add-on programs.

Microsoft's new anti-Spyware Web site lists 5 steps you can take to avoid Spyware:


Choose an appropriate Web browser security setting
Don't accept downloads from strangers
Look for signs of deceptive software on your computer
Detecting and removing unwanted software
Keep Windows up to date

The FTC issued a consumer warning last year about deceptive software, but lawmakers in three states and in the U.S. Senate want to take firmer action. Utah has already adopted a law regulating spyware and other malicious programs. Lawmakers in California and Iowa are considering doing the same.

Microsoft and other industry leaders said they are committed to working with lawmakers to stop the distribution of deceptive software. But some noted that the new and proposed laws wouldn't affect many of the most pernicious distributors of deceptive software because they are located outside the United States.

Civil liberties advocates such as the non-profit Center for Democracy and Technology also are reluctant to enact new laws. They support the increased enforcement of current laws, which they say are sufficient to prosecute the distributors of the most egregious spyware and other malicious programs.

On our WindowsBBS.com support forums we have an area dedicated to Security/Virus/Spyware, so if you have any questions/problems, you can always post there and get (free) help.

Note: Software distributed by our Rose City Software Web site does not contain any deceptive ("Spyware") software. (Windows-Help.NET and Rose City Software are divisions of InfiniSource, Inc.)

Security

According to Tom Liston of SANS Institute, public exploits, which are often the precursors to widespread worm attacks, have appeared in the last week for several of the vulnerabilities that Microsoft unveiled and patched last week.

Microsoft have updated their TechNet Security Web site to indicate that code is available on the Internet that seeks to exploit issues addressed in Microsoft security updates related to Security Bulletin MS04-011.

Make sure that you have patched your system! (Also check that friends & co-workers have done the same!)

Rose City Software


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, did that come from Microsoft themselves?
I'm not sure I would want to believe anything written by 'A Wry Slob' Rolling eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
yes it was a weekly microsucks news letter. i beleave thats his real name. did a search the usa has 25,000 or so slobs liveing there. jmho.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting a little weary of this Microsoft bashing.

If Microsoft was not so successful it would not be the target of attack. It is doing a good job of correcting exposed vunerablilities. If Customers had not complained about the frequency of the fixes then they would be available sooner.

I think I'll pull up an appropriate Flame Warrior.

Too strong but close http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame21.html
Maybe this one http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

na na na

http://groups.msn.com/wawadave/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=794&LastModified=4675469449262124101
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