Spyware Warrior

ash1ey · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:54 pm Post subject:

Heres some qoutes from my post to jog your memory about what i've been saying

3162 · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:59 am Post subject:

mikey · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:48 am Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:

Mikey WTF? LOL

Your post is simply proving my point.

mikey · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:34 am Post subject:

Jester700 · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:05 am Post subject:

Wow. Very entertaining.

I understand Ashley's desire to make a profit, and it doesn't bug me that he wants to do it with anti-spyware software. But I've never seen good software like that that doesn't have a passionate anti-malware person at the helm - even those companies that turn a profit are ALSO driven by something other than money, like Webroot or Pest Patrol. So I suspect in the end even if the software doesn't suck, I doubt it'll end up being anything I'd recommend. It seems like the "make a buck flavor of the month" - hence the about face to possibly going the spyware route. And THAT was a mistake in a forum like this. Ashley, you'll never live that down here; a bonehead play if you care about the opinions here. And though you may say you don't, you ARE still here...

As for the legal thing, give it a rest. After the statements you've made (including those about "going to the dark side"), you got nuthin'.

suzi · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:09 am Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:49 am Post subject:

Yesterday I took the first step towards taking action against the posts in this forum. I have contacted an attorney in the US to represent me.

I quote from an email they sent me:

"You can sue for any defamatory posts that in fact do damage you-- Our attorneys could also become directly involved"

From here on I retain my right to remain silence until further advice is sought.

Jester700 · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:25 am Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:30 am Post subject:

Eldar · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:48 am Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:09 am Post subject:

Well I feel I can answer these questions as you seem to be missing my point here.

Harry Letterman · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:29 am Post subject:

I just read thru the forum post the other night. At first, I was impressed when Ash1ey seemed to suggest that he ("Ashley" is a man's name in Britain) would fix PrivacyTools2004's problems but he apparently cannot take criticism of any kind. Although, I wonder if people didn't dump on him a bit too harshly, at least initially (after his first 8/21 post). By and large I agree with the approach that the members take when it comes to purveyors of sleazeware but when he said this I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt:

"This is all a learning process for me, I had to start somewhere. Not a good start but you can only learn from your mistakes and move forward."

I think that he should have had one of his programmers/coders do the posting on his behalf (Ashley is the owner of the company, not a programmer). That is what a responsible small business owner should have done (delegate), IMHO. But he became far too defensive, all the while admitting that he knew little about the tech end of his product. And his later posts where he kept on emphasizing that he was in business to make money (who isn't, but that does not mean automatically jettisoning your ethics and morals), no matter what the means, just exposed him for the slimy little weasel that he is.

It would be interesting to see someone create a web page with the name along the lines of "PrivacyTools2004-is-scumware" to counter his threats of infecting as many innocent eople as he can pathetically manage.

Haven't you heard, Ash1ey: "When the revolution comes, the lawyers will be the first ones with their backs against the [firing] wall"? That probably needs to be amended to include purveyors of scumware like yourself. Oh, and have fun spending untold thousands of dollars in mounting a legal effort that will ultimately fail. What will Mommy & Daddy think of you then?
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Harry Letterman · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:40 am Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:01 am Post subject:

ash1ey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject:

I am taking the advise of my legal guy and I am not going to be taking this any further.

At the end of the day as soon as my beta version is finished I will continue to sell my software and will do so knowing that I am doing nothing wrong. Nothing illegal, nothing dishonest.

Been fun speaking to you all Wink

3162 · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject:

Harry Letterman · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:

mikey · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

Been doing a bit more looking at these ADS variants.

Ashley, before you leave, could you tell me just a portion of the nasties that your tool can PROPERLY remove? Just a short list would help as I'm having a very hard time finding them.

I'm getting to the opinion that perhaps the entire anti-malware community should probably have a look at this.
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know_bee_ess · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject:

[quote] I see you say it would be interesting to see 'someone' create a site and you dont actually want to take that risk yourself.[/quote]

A related suggestion for you, Ash1ey. As you seem quite dissatisfied with your reception here, perhaps you'd be willing to add a support forum or commented blog, or both, to YOUR website. It can't be too difficult for a man of your means, and the tremendous volume of positive feedback you're certain to enjoy would be priceless for your public relations.

Mr. Green

Harry Letterman · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject:

3162 · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject:

Harry Letterman:
Well found!
Excellent!

Now, if the Brits had won the war of Independence, perhaps things would be somewhat different

We 'do' have a way with words, after all Wink

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Harry Letterman · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject:

katz78 · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject:

Did anyone see at download.com, the comment by 'sv', that said:

'I have been trying it since last 203 days and it has beejn totally amazing'

I didn't see this listed on BetaNews.com. Where was it for 203 days?

This was posted on download.com on July 20,2004. I didn't see it on snapfiles.com, or on majorgeeks.com. It is in tucows.com.

Such 'glowing reviews' and only one negative post? Hmmm.

Methinks those rave reviews were written by one person.

Ashley says, "As i explained in my post, I have stopped selling the software and instead of re-directing my traffic to an another application i would direct it all to your forum until my new software is ready to sell. Doesnt appear to be appreciated so i'll get it changed a.s.a.p "

Thats funny, because it's still available for download and to really mess peoples computers up.

I have the snapshot on my desktop of the file download. (Run, Save, Cancel). Yes I've got XP.

If you click on the program Author, you get this page.

http://www2.palsol.com

He (or whoever wrote this up) says on that page:

It is very likely your computer is infected with Spyware that normal Antivirus programs cannot detect.

Oh yeah? Well if adawareSE, spybot s&d, spyware blaster, spywareguard, spysweeper, hijackthis,and cwshredder can't take care of any spyware problems I would have, I WOULD have a REAL problem.

What are you my mom now? I see no bad behaviour here.

Only by you, Ashley.

Your parents are so proud of you? What is this language then?

'stfu, and WTF'.

You sure say WTF an awful lot. I don't imagine your parents are proud of your language?

Oh I am glad you removed that tracking cookie you had on your site Ashley. Good job. Now you're getting the hang of it. I scanned with adawareSE BEFORE i went to your page, and then scanned after. The ole' tracking cookie trick popped up.

Well my friend Symantec are in it in for the money and dam they have a few good apps

They don't show FP's in their software. Their apps are tried and true.

And to be honest i'm even thinking of having some programmers write me some spyware. Yep, actual spyware to infect ppls machines. Why? Cus you all suck.... You guys are against me so much that i'm going to start distributing spyware myself, its not hard. UNDETECTABLE stuff too

Again, you said your parents are proud of you? Bet they don't know all about this, right?

And YES if I still get treated like your enemy in all this then YES I will look at distributing some spyware (and then you can really call me your enemy and then you wont have to give me a chance

You think you really have a chance on infecting peoples computers who read these forums, and fight every day to keep this crap off their machines, and people who are infected.? These people know something is wrong, and come to forums like this for help.
Then you come along, with an app that shows FPs. If someone was naive or (dumb) enough to delete everything that you suggested, they could really mess their registry up. Only a full reinstall would help.

For example, I have adawareSE, Spybot S & D, spywareblaster,spywareguard,Hijackthis, and CWShredder on my comp. I also use SpySweeper. I keep my AV and all my other software up to date.
Personally, you really wouldn't have a chance to infect me. I watch what I download, Just because I'm not that tech savvy,(I'm learning), doesn't make me naive.

HAHAHAHA. Man you just cant read can you? Yes I am fully aware of my future actions and what i am doing with this venture, but if you were able to read properly you will understand that my software wont get sold until it stops producing F/P's

Ok, so why then is it listed in download.com, and tucows.com?

The longer spywarewarrior and its member continue to make false claims against me and my software the more I will pay my legal guy to find something for me to prosecute you and bring you guys down.

False claims? You're the one with false claims now. Your legal guy,? Who is it? Bruce Cutler? LOL

Stated you will deliberately add spyware to your program
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And to be honest i'm even thinking of having some programmers write me some spyware. Yep, actual spyware to infect ppls machines. Why? Cus you all suck.... You guys are against me so much that i'm going to start distributing spyware myself, its not hard. UNDETECTABLE stuff too

You threaten the posters in this forum with legal action, when it should be us filing a class action lawsuit against you.

And these attys in this so called 'case', when they find out the details and check this forum out, they'll either laugh you out of their office(or off the phone, whatever) or tell you that you're crazy.

You put this software out there for the 'unsuspecting public'. Are you willing to pay to fix their computers also? Put your money where your mouth is Ashley.

I'm a newbie to this forum. Does that mean I'm going to get sued too? Funny, that's never happened to me before. Somehow I have the feeling it won't be happening now either. Sorry Ashley, to break your bubble. Like we say here in the states, it's time for you to pack up your tent and go home.

Bye.

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ash1ey · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:30 am Post subject:

Firstly I answer Nicks question. I didnt actually say I was going to leave, I just said the discussion was coming to an end. If people continue to ask me questions I will repond. It seems you all need entertaining as you have nothing better to do.

I think the sad people on this board need a lesson in learning how to read.

Jester700 · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:47 am Post subject:

mikey · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:19 am Post subject:

While I can't speak for the admin here, I seriously doubt there will be any 'book burning' here.

As someone who has been censored and censured on numerous occasions because my opinion wasn't liked, I can tell you flat out that it is NEVER in the public's interest.

As long as no sec or personal threats exist and no obscenities exist, why talk wanton censorship? Sorry, but for me this issue is even bigger than the viral agent of topic here.
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mikey · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:38 am Post subject:

mikey · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:35 am Post subject:

BTW Ashley, are you aware that it is impossible for simple text signatures to ever touch a morph. I notice that some of the F/Ps claim to be known morphs.
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mikey · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:19 am Post subject:

Continuing from where I left off with some more questions;

Why don't I see any routines for either reg value analysis or any type of checksum analysis.

Would you also mind describing the forensics and criteria you or your people use in determining and defining a target?

Can you explain why the ADS updater just reloads the same bogus definitions file every time you check?
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Harry Letterman · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject: