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mallen1 Warrior
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Last Visit: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 86 Location: New York State
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: Risk Assessment: On-line Account Compromised |
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I recently signed up with an on-line gaming site. Apparently, a cookie on my system hooked itself to my account application, establishing itself as an "affiliate" for which it receives a monetary commission from the on-line gaming site.
My first question is this: would an entity with the computer savvy to pull off this stunt, to compromise my account application without my knowledge, likely possess the ability to hack into my password account at the said gaming site? I'm concerned about the security of my account as I debate whether or not to permanently close it.
My second question is this: does this fraudulent behavior constitute Internet fraud? _________________ HARDWARE
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roger_m Warrior Addict

Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Last Visit: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 605 Location: Blackwater, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Cookies are completely harmless, I have well over 5,000 cookies on my computer and that number grows daily.
Cookies are simply text files and can not be used to hack into your account so don't worry about that. |
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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mallen1, that sounds a bit like "cookie stuffing" Take a look at this article.
http://www.benedelman.org/cookiestuffing/
There's also cookie hijacking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking
http://fscked.org/blog/fully-automated-active-https-cookie-hijacking
Cookies are text files, but they can be manipulated. What you describe might constitute internet fraud, but I'm not sure. But who will receive the monetary commission and how did you figure out what happened? Do you know what cookie on your system was used?
If it were me, I'd close the account, or at least contact the site and see if there's anything they can do.
Cookies may be harmless, but they can also be a privacy issue. I don't worry about cookies too much, but there are some apps you can use to select what cookies you want to keep and then delete all the rest. WinPatrol and CCleaner are good for managing cookies. _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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mallen1 Warrior
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Last Visit: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 86 Location: New York State
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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suzi, thanks for taking the time to write.
I sincerely appreciate the links you sent. I have read them all and they certainly haven't allayed my concerns. Information can be a double edged sword.
I've been in an extensive email dialog with the merchant. In a nutshell, I've asked them to either:
1. provide me the name/website of the "affiliate",
2. close my account and allow me to reopen it cleanly, or
3. close my account permanently.
They have refused all three requests.
The are a Native American consortium, bound by US Federal Indian Law and Tribal Law. I'm not sure if they have to do anything I request, no matter how reasonable.
But I wish to returning to the pressing issue: my security. Is it conceivable that the "affiliate" has access to my account? If I were to fund my account, is it conceivable that the "affiliate" would have access to my money within my account?
suzi, I would sincerely appreciate your thoughts and suggestions. _________________ HARDWARE
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mallen1 Warrior
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Last Visit: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 86 Location: New York State
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
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suzi, I forgot to answer your question. You'll love this. You asked how I figured out that this happened. I didn't. The merchant account told me. _________________ HARDWARE
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I would not think the affiliate has your account info, but I can't say with complete certainty.
One thing you could do is delete all your cookies. Before deleting them, however, I would locate the cookie, or cookies, for that site and look at their contents. It might tell you something.
If it were me, I think I'd find a different gaming site, too.
I don't exactly understand what you mean by this:
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How did they tell you? By email, or ? _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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mallen1 Warrior
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Last Visit: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 86 Location: New York State
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Yep, by email. I've been fighting with them for days and days after they informed me that I was "affiliated" with another business to whom they were bound by their "Standard Affiliate Agreement".
They said I either clicked on a banner ad or had a cookie on my system from a previous visit to the affiliate's site. Since I know what HTTP address I was on when I linked off to establish my account. The address is a place I've been a member for years and claims not to be the affiliate (a fact confirmed by the merchant site). That limits the options as to what happened.
Also, they (the affiliate) modified my account application by somehow entering a referral code onto it. The merchant site told me what the referral code was and it was a string of letters I had never heard of. _________________ HARDWARE
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suzi Site Admin

Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Last Visit: 21 May 2013 Posts: 10271 Location: sunny California
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| They said I either clicked on a banner ad or had a cookie on my system from a previous visit to the affiliate's site. |
Yes, that can happen and is not unusual I believe. If you go to site A and a cookie is placed with that affiliate's code, then you go to another site selling the same product or service, the site A affiliate will get credit/commission for the sale.
This article explains how affiliates cookies work.
http://www.homebizpal.com/affiliate-marketing/affiliate-sales-tracking/ _________________ Former Microsoft MVP 2005-2009, Consumer Security
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