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SafeSpace beta - Sandbox. Similar in many respects to Sandboxie. Free for personal use.
Comodo Firewall 3.0 beta - Firewall. This beta version adds a lot of HIPS features
McAfeeŽ VirusScan Plus – Special edition from AOL - Replacement for AOL ActiveShield. Includes firewall.
EQsecure 3.4 (direct link) - Fully featured HIPS. Offers full Application, File and Registry control.
Personal Software Inspector (PSI) - Secunia (beta) - Scans your computer locally for more than 4,200 applications looking for vulnerabilities that require patching. This is more comprehensive than the online web based Java applet (also by Secunia) found here
Neoava Guard beta 3 - Another totally free HIPS comparable with EQSecure , SSM Pro etc.
Comodo Memory Guardian (beta) - Protection from buffer overflows. Will be future part of Comodo security suite. See here for more information.
RGguard - SiteAdvisor competitor, add a toolbar that advises you about dangerous executables on websites.
RunScanner - Promising auto-starts listing tool. Version 1.0 just released.
MANDIANT Red Curtain - Interesting tool that tries to determine heuristically, how dangerous a file is based "on entropy (in other words, randomness), indications of packing, compiler and packing signatures, the presence of digital signatures, and other characteristics to generate a threat 'score'". For advanced users.
ThreatFire (beta) - Renamed CyberHawk. This security HIPS program detects malware based on behavior instead of code signatures and unlike other HIPs might be suitable for beginners. This new beta, includes fully configurable advanced custom rules (formerly only for paid version) for the free version.
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Lots of good info there, thanks. I see a couple that I think I'll try  |
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I have a questions, is the Mcafee security center by Aol realy a security center?? I mean does it have antispyware and firewall and antivirus?
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Sorry for double post... but besides my 1st question.. is it as good as the real Mcafee? What's the difference?
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| I have a questions, is the Mcafee security center by Aol realy a security center?? I mean does it have antispyware and firewall and antivirus? |
Yes it is.
It REALLY is a suite. There is antivirus, antispyware (plus "wormstopper"), script scanning, firewall, system guard and even buffer overflow protection. |
Is it as good as the real thing?
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| I have a questions, is the Mcafee security center by Aol realy a security center?? I mean does it have antispyware and firewall and antivirus? |
Yes it is.
It REALLY is a suite. There is antivirus, antispyware (plus "wormstopper"), script scanning, firewall, system guard and even buffer overflow protection. |
Is it as good as the real thing? |
I have no idea, cos I always format if I do get Mcafee... on my machines... 
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For sake of ease (since the screenshots make it a little hard to view), here is a simple list of the programs and their homepages as provided by lusher:
SafeSpace:
Homepage
Sandbox program. Looks free, at least while in beta it is.
Comodo Firewall 3.0 beta:
Comodo Forum
New beta of their firewall. Free of course.
McAfee VirusSacn Plus Special Ed. from AOL:
Homepage
AOL's new security software after ditching Kaspersky. Its also free.
EQSecure:
Non-english Homepage
HIPS program. Its free, though Im not sure what kind of support is provided in English - the homepage sure isn't English.
Secunia Personal Software Inspector:
Homepage
Scans for vulnerabilities with installed software. Free for private and home use only.
Neoava Guard:
Homepage
HIPS program. Free.
Comodo Memory Guardian:
Homepage
Protection of buffer overflows. Free I would guess?
RGguard:
Homepage
Competitor to SiteAdvisor and WebSecurityGuard. Looks free.
RunScanner:
Homepage
Scans for preconfigured programs and autostarts. Free.
MANDIANT Red Curtain:
Homepage
File scanner to determine threat of a file using a variety of methods. Free I guess?
ThreatFire:
Homepage
New name from PCTools for CyberHawk. Free, no purchasable version until beta is over.
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I just took at RgGuard. it seems nice, but it needs a lot of work. The alert windows are very win98 looking - quite ugly.
The neat thing about it is that they have analyzed files from the site. However, it only analyzes EXE files from what I have seen...no zips or whatever.
Personally, they are biting off more than they can chew.
Softpedia - 42 EXE's? Excuse me?
Download.com - 11 EXE's? What????
The site info page is just a list of programs the site lists. Its more of a rating system based off the nature of EXE files contained:
All good exe's or no exe's = good
A single bad exe = bad
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| Sigh. ST shrills... |
come again?
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Lusher, we don't delete history. Please think before you post next time. Remember, no attacks and no flaming.
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I told you what my opinion was.
SiteAdvisor and Web Security Guard (Crawler's product) have better looking interfaces with the info bubbles. If you would like pictures I can provide them. It is not hard to spot win98 looking programs (im sure you know that).
I said the EXE scanning is a neat feature, and I say that because SA and WSG both dont have that feature.
But there is a con to the feature, which is that it only scans EXE's (no ZIP's or the sort), and I think it is just biting off more than it can chew (which I showed with Softpedia.com and Download.com).
And finally, the rating system is a little poor, since its based off contained EXE's and their ratings.
Cracks.ms:
SiteAdvisor - rated RED because it makes unauthorized changes to the PC - http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/cracks.ms
WebSecurityGuard - rated RED because of Adware, Spyware or Viruses - http://www.websecurityguard.com/detail.aspx?domain=www.cracks.ms
RgGuard - rated GREEN because there were no malicious EXE found - http://www.robotgenius.net/orthrus/siteSearch.jsp?domain=crack.ms
I can show many more examples, but I was just pointing out the most notable parts of the software. If you want a full review I can give that to you as well.
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sorry, i didnt see that SiteAdvisor has the EXE scanning feature as well.
So WSG doesnt have this feature...which is why I said it was neat.
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I told you what my opinion was.
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So you are only interested in bash..er giving your opinion of software that competes with what your company produces? Okay... Not so interesting for me given your agenda.
Even less interesting given that your are just a marketing guy, with no more (probably less) technical knowledge than any guy here, so your reviews carry even less weight (on top of the bias).
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Well, at least the first post was interesting and informative.
Thx for the heads up. |
Mikey,You are welcome, I might do this every month, I just collect entries from my blog and post them.
As usual, I am not endorsing any of the products in the list (and I have no creditability anyway even if I was endorsing them), you want to try it, you take your own chances.
If it turns out to be malware, or blows up your computer due to incompetent code, don't come crying to me!
What I can assure you all is that I'm not affiliated to any of the companies or developers (though I could be a fanboy you can never rule that one out), so I have no agenda.
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| ...I might do this every month, I just collect entries from my blog and post them... |
Cool, I'm always looking for new and/or innovative products and techniques.
Some of my best sharewares were licensed without any cost other than beta testing. Of course, the term 'beta test' means different things to different folk and usually not what I think.
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I told you what my opinion was.
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So you are only interested in bash..er giving your opinion of software that competes with what your company produces? Okay... Not so interesting for me given your agenda.
Even less interesting given that your are just a marketing guy, with no more (probably less) technical knowledge than any guy here, so your reviews carry even less weight (on top of the bias). |
What about my assessment do you not agree with? Im curious.
Did you even try the software? I see that you listed it, and heres a pat on the back for your work in finding all these nice software titles, you work is much appreciated. But I'd like to know if you have any interest in testing the software.
My opinion is based on the testing that is all.
There are genuine problems with the software that, if i were an unbiased user (with my technical knowledge) i'd be upset.
Tell me if you disagree with any of the following, with relation to RgGuard.
1) There is a problem with the software with the Google search integration. When you search on google and get results which are part of the StopBadware campaign, instead of rating the bad site it rates Google.com (because the link leads to a page which says StopBadware from Google). You think this is correct for a product which integrates with search engines?
2) It is biting off more than it can chew with Download sites. Softpedia lists over 300,000 software titles and download links. OK, RgGuard only analyzes software hosted at the domain, and I agree with this behavior and thats fine. But RgGuard only reports 42 EXE files hosted by Softpedia. Um, yeah, thats not accurate. I can guarantee Softpedia hosts more than 42 software titles on their servers. What I think RgGuard should do is have some database of download sites and for these sites do something like SiteAdvisor does (which I like), which is put rather generic text for the site. Here is what SiteAdvisor says about Softpedia:
"In our tests of this site, a very small percentage of its many downloads contained adware or other potentially unwanted programs. However, Softpedia prohibits these programs and removes them when found."
That is significantly better than saying "Softpedia contains 42 good EXE's". SiteAdvisor analyzed over 10,000 EXE files from Softpedia mind you.
3) The rating system is not very good. It rates sites based SOLELY (i mean SOLELY) on the downloads available. I have no problem with this behavior and think it provides a good service for users. But what if a page:
-has an infected script running?
-includes adult material?
-has phishing attacks?
-has driveby malicious ActiveX?
-has illegal content?
RgGuard will not see any of that. None.
I have visited several malicious sites containing malicious activex scripts, and spam, and infected scripts, etc. (because I look for malware to add to th Spyware Terminator database). And RgGuard has no problem with the sites (while WebSecurityGuard and SiteAdvisor do) because these sites contain no malicious EXE files or contain only safe EXE files that they have analyzed.
Do you agree with sites containing malicious content (not in the form of downloadable EXE files) being rated "green" (the safe rating)?
4) RgGuard only analyzes EXE files. That is great, but what about junk in the form of ZIP, RAR, CAB, etc.? Softpedia hosts tons of ZIP files, and I have found tons of malware in the form of CAB files.
I dont agree with this and hope they expand to include these other filetypes.
I wasnt bashing the software. I was simply pointing out its shortcomings because this is a security forum and I think the last thing we want to do is to recommend a software title which does not do its job as well as promised. And with regard to RgGuard, when I visit malicious sites which it finds SAFE (not UNRATED, I mean SAFE), then I have a problem (and this isnt a one-time incident). And the problem stems from its rating algorithm (which is based solely on the safety of EXE files it finds from crawling the site).
No crawl history = gray
Bad EXE files = red
Only safe EXE files = green
No EXE files = green
You listed all that software and thats great. But there are no guarantees that they are good choices for the users of this forum. That is all.
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Did you even try the software? I see that you listed it, and heres a pat on the back for your work in finding all these nice software titles, you work is much appreciated. But I'd like to know if you have any interest in testing the software.
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I test of course. Just not officially enough to make a statement. And certainly i test for longer than just the 5 seconds you took.
Some I test longer than others, some I find less interesting because I already have something better, though they might still be interesting.
One thing I don't do is to only test just to find faults in ONLY competitor products. Your agenda is transparent to all.
If I did the same to your products no doubt you would label me a hater...
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Did you even try the software? I see that you listed it, and heres a pat on the back for your work in finding all these nice software titles, you work is much appreciated. But I'd like to know if you have any interest in testing the software.
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I test of course. Just not officially enough to make a statement. And certainly i test for longer than just the 5 seconds you took.
Some I test longer than others, some I find less interesting because I already have something better, though they might still be interesting.
One thing I don't do is to only test just to find faults in ONLY competitor products. Your agenda is transparent to all.
If I did the same to your products no doubt you would label me a hater... |
Could you answer my question, please?
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I gave you the four points I found fault with. I think anyone here would agree with these faults.
I analyze software to find its merits too, mind you. If they warrant mentioning then I will mention them, but this software (RgGuard) has some serious faults that are hard to ignore.
Would I label you as a hater for finding faults with our software? It depends on your comments. If your comments were drawbacks with which I agreed, I wouldnt. If your comments were vulgar in nature, then I would.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Most vendors have enough sense not to comment on wares of competing nature when they are away from their home site. They know that doing so is considered in bad taste if not much worse and makes their own product seem a sham by association of character.
So, since we all know who and what Tokar is, it seems to me a little pointless to continue this OT.
I look fwd to your next posting and seeing new possibilities. In the future, I hope the competitors will refrain from making themselves and their product look so pathetic with this type of conduct.
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A) Prevx Computer Security Investigator (CSI)
"Our FREE Prevx CSI scanner allows you to benefit from the knowledge gained from our vast community of users. Prevx CSI scanner is click-and-go, requires no installation or reboot, which means it's quick and easy to use. Its small size allows you to take it anywhere and use it as many times as you like, and even copy it to your friends."
B) Online Armor (Free edition)
Includes a firewall (stripped down in the free version so you cannot filter by ip addresses) as well as a full fledged HIPS including the usual features such as anti-executable, process termination protection, Process Modification. registry control etc.
Limited antikeylogger protection (hook based only) compared to paid version. Also lacks webshield, email shield anti-dns spoofing , "bank mode" features but is otherwise fully functional.
Will do as well in leak tests as the full version (currently ranked 2nd here against leak tests , it missed one due to a bug during the test period, fixed now
In a recent test against "Unhookers" designed to break HIPS . the full version of Online armor again ranked 2nd, below ProSecurity but above the likes of ProcessGuard, System Safety Monior...
C) Webroot Desktop Firewall
Currently free. Vista ready. Rebranded version of Private Firewall.
Rated "very good" against leak tests .
Includes HIPS Dynamic Security Agent (also available standalone freeware) .
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