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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:26 pm    Post subject: RFID tags! SPYWARE Reply with quote

Hello
This post has been here for a while and is long but currant!!!
Please don,t be afraid to post a comment or ask a question.
the post is all about Radio Frequency Id Tags!!! You will see many different articles on it both pro and con!!!

CASPIAN Newsletter <newsletter@nocards.org>
Sent : February 6, 2004 6:41:46 AM
To : newsletter@nocards.org
Subject : German RFID Scandal: Hidden devices, unkillable tags found inMetro Future Store


Quote:
Ok this link has some easy to understand info on RFID tags. Though industry sided
http://msdn.microsoft.com/architecture/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnbda/html/RFIDIntro.asp
RFID IN RETAIL: AN INTRODUCTION
This white paper provides a general introduction to Radio Frequency
Identification (RFID) technology, and discusses the benefits and
challenges of this technology for organizations that are involved in
the production, movement, or sale of retail goods.
http://www.net-security.org/news.php?id=11186

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

February 5, 2004

German RFID Scandal: Hidden devices, unkillable tags found in Metro
Future Store
Germans say, "Nein! We wont be your versuchskaninchen"

"We won't be your versuchskaninchen." That's the message German privacy
advocates are sending to executives at the Metro Future Store in
Rheinberg, Germany after discovering RFID devices hidden in the store's
loyalty cards. They also found that RFID tags on products sold at the
store cannot be completely deactivated after purchase, despite Metro's
claims.

"Versuchskaninchen" is the German word for guinea pig, which is how
German consumers feel Metro and its partners have treated them since
opening the Future Store last year to test experimental RFID
applications on live shoppers.

The revelations came just one day after Katherine Albrecht, founder and
director of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and
Numbering) toured the Future Store with a delegation of privacy experts
from German advocacy group FoeBud, who sponsored her visit.

"We were shocked to find RFID tags in Metro's 'Payback' loyalty card,"
said Albrecht, after FoeBuD tested the cards with an RFID reader and
discovered the tag. "The card application form, brochures, and signage
at the store made no mention of the embedded technology and Metro
executives spent several hours showing us the store without telling us
about it."

"In retrospect, it's no wonder store employees appeared nervous when we
asked to take a few of the cards with us," she added.

Vendors of RFID-enabled loyalty cards promote them as a way for
supermarkets to identify shoppers remotely as they enter the store,
using details of their identity and purchase history to pitch products
to them and to track their movements and activities within the store.
Prior to the Metro discovery, no major retailer had publicly admitted to
using such cards.

In addition to the cards, Albrecht discovered that Metro cannot
deactivate the unique identification number contained in RFID tags in
products it sells. The use of unique, item-level ID numbers is one of
the key privacy concerns surrounding the use of RFID tags on consumer
goods.

"Customers are misled into believing that the tags can be killed at a
special deactivation kiosk, but the kiosk only rewrites a portion of the
tag, while leaving the unique ID number intact," she said.

Outraged German citizens are calling on Metro to put an immediate end to
the trials.

"We are deeply disappointed at the Metro executives. They talked of an
open dialog while hiding important facts from us," said Rena Tangens of
FoeBuD. "We are calling for an immediate moratorium on further RFID
testing as it is clear that Metro is not handling the technology
responsibly."

Evidence of the RFID tag in Metro's "Payback" loyalty card, along with
evidence of the incomplete deactivation of product tags, can be found on
FoeBuD's website at http://www.foebud.org/rfid/.

For more information, see http://www.spychips.com
and http://www.nocards.org.
Katherine Albrecht, CASPIAN Founder and Director: (877) 287-5854
Liz McIntyre, CASPIAN Communications: (877) 287-5854 or liz@nocards.org

i actually have been getting this news letter for a while its been an interesting one! wd


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello this link is to a pro rfid page but thought it was relevant.

Five RFID Myths Exposed
RFID technology is new and many misconceptions remain concerning the
opportunities it
offers. The RFID wave is coming but its shape may not be what the pundits
expect.
http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,phs,1,antd,d4xu,9s3s,a9gz

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read some interesting things (and some scary things) about the RFID tags and privacy issues. I'll post them here when I find the links again.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is spywareinfo,s verion of this.
German Supermarket Caught Tracking Customers
German RFID Scandal: Hidden devices, unkillable tags found in Metro
Future Store

Germans say, "Nein! We wont be your versuchskaninchen"

"We won't be your versuchskaninchen." That's the message German privacy advocates are sending to executives at the Metro Future Store in Rheinberg, Germany after discovering RFID devices hidden in the store's loyalty cards. They also found that RFID tags on products sold at the store cannot be completely deactivated after purchase, despite Metro's claims.

"Versuchskaninchen" is the German word for guinea pig, which is how German consumers feel Metro and its partners have treated them since opening the Future Store last year to test experimental RFID applications on live shoppers.

More: http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/RFID/Metro_Rheinberg.php


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is big brother useing rfid tags now!
The Trouble with RFID
Indeed, such warnings might once have been dismissed as mere fear-mongering. But in today's post-9/11 world, in which the US government has already announced its plans to fingerprint and photograph foreign visitors to our country, RFID sounds like a technology that could easily be seized upon by the Homeland Security Department in the so-called "war on terrorism." But such a system wouldn't just track suspected Al Qaeda terrorists: it would necessarily track everybody--at least potentially.

More: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040216&s=garfinkel


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASPIAN Newsletter newsletter@nocards.org
Sent : February 27, 2004 2:38:27 AM
To : newsletter@nocards.org
Subject : German Consumers Rebel over RFID Tracking at METRO Future Store


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

February 26, 2004

German Consumers Rebel over RFID Tracking at METRO Future Store
Saturday protest to call for an end to RFID trials

"We are not your guinea pigs!" will be the rallying cry on Saturday as
German consumers protest RFID tagging at the METRO Extra Future Store.
Consumers, led by German privacy organization FoeBuD, will call for an
end to the store's item-level RFID trials.

The store, located in Rheinberg, Germany, is the industry's showplace
for radio frequency identification (RFID) tracking technology. There,
companies like Gillette, Procter & Gamble, and IBM are testing the
technology on live consumers.

"The German people are rightfully upset at being referred to as guinea
pigs by the industry," said Katherine Albrecht, Founder and Director of
CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering),
referring to an IBM news release about the activities at the store.
"They feel like they have been reduced to experimental subjects and have
not been given full disclosure about the technology in use at the METRO
store."

Privacy advocates recently discovered RFID tags hidden in the METRO
store's loyalty cards. Store disclosures failed to inform consumers of
the devices, which can be read remotely at a distance up over three feet
through a shopper's purse or pocket. Advocates also found that RFID tags
on products sold in the store couldn't be completely disabled by the
store's "deactivation" kiosk, contrary to METRO's claims.

"By embedding RFID tags in their loyalty cards, METRO has taken consumer
espionage to new lows," said CASPIAN's Albrecht. "Shoppers at the METRO
Extra Future Store could be tracked secretly through these cards as they
enter and move around the store in an effort to increase manufacturer
and store profits."

The German people are the latest to join a growing global consumer
movement opposing RFID. Critics contend that item-level RFID tagging of
consumer products could jeopardize consumer privacy and civil liberties.

METRO AG is Germany's largest retailer and the fifth largest retailer in
the world. METRO runs more than 2,000 stores in 28 countries, including
the UK, Spain, France, China, Japan and India. Their holdings include
supermarkets, department stores, home improvement stores and electronics
stores that operate under names like Cash & Carry, Real and Extra.

Because of its global reach, METRO's policies have an impact on millions
of consumers worldwide.

The METRO protest will be held at 1 PM on Saturday, February 28, at the
METRO Extra Future Store in Rheinberg, Germany. The organization
sponsoring the protest, FoeBuD, will be joined by representatives from
six other German privacy organizations. Additional information about the
protest and the implications of the METRO RFID initiatives can be found
at the CASPIAN RFID web site: http://www.spychips.com or at the FoeBuD
web site: http://www.foebud.org/texte/aktion/rfid/demo/callfd.htm.

The IBM news release stating "...residents of the German town of
Rheinberg will find themselves guinea pigs in what Metro and its
partners...hope will become a global standard within the next five to 10
years" is online at:
http://www-1.ibm.com/industries/wireless/doc/content/news/pressrelease/872672104.html

CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering )
is a grass-roots consumer group fighting retail surveillance schemes
since 1999, and item-level RFID tagging since 2002. With members in all
50 U.S. states and over 20 nations across the globe, CASPIAN seeks to
educate consumers about marketing strategies that invade their privacy
and to encourage privacy-conscious shopping habits across the retail
spectrum.

For more information, see http://www.spychips.com
and http://www.nocards.org

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CASPIAN Newsletter <newsletter@nocards.org>
Sent : February 27, 2004 10:01:59 PM
To : CASPIAN Newsletter <newsletter@nocards.org>
Subject : Scandal Forces METRO to Drop RFID Loyalty Card like HotWienerschnitzel

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 27, 2004

Scandal Forces METRO to Drop RFID Loyalty Card like Hot Wienerschnitzel
"This is the power of the free market at work," says CASPIAN

Hammered by the press and facing a Saturday protest, METRO executives
announced Thursday that they would stop putting Radio Frequency
Identification (RFID) tags in their shopper "loyalty cards" at the Extra
Future store. In addition, they will replace cards already issued to
consumers.

The tags, hidden within the card's plastic, could transmit identifying
information about consumers at distances of 3 feet or more via invisible
radio waves. This information could be read secretly, right through a
shopper's purse, backpack or wallet, said Katherine Albrecht, Founder
and Director of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion
and Numbering).

Revelation of the stealthy cards infuriated privacy and civil liberties
advocates, especially since the store failed to disclose the existence
or capabilities of the embedded RFID tags. In addition, privacy
advocates discovered that RFID tags on products sold in the store
couldn't be completely disabled at the store's deactivation kiosks,
contrary to METRO's claims.

METRO's Extra Future Store, located in Rheinberg, Germany, is the
industry's showplace for RFID tracking technology. There, companies like
Gillette, Procter & Gamble, and IBM are testing the technology on live
consumers in what the press has called a "life-sized petri dish."

"METRO and its partners were blindsided by the consumer backlash," said
Albrecht, explaining METRO's retreat. "This demonstrates the power of
the free market at work. The world's people are telling global
businesses like METRO, Procter & Gamble, and Gillette that they won't
tolerate being spied on through products and services."

The German people are the latest to join a growing global consumer
movement opposing RFID. Critics charge that item-level RFID tagging of
consumer products could jeopardize consumer privacy and civil liberties.

METRO has faced a tidal wave of negative press in Germany since privacy
advocates discovered the abusive RFID practices at the store, following
a visit by CASPIAN's Albrecht in January. A sampling of headlines about
the scandal with loose English translations can be found at:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http://www.foebud.org/archiv/dp/.

German privacy organization FoeBud will lead a protest in front of the
METRO Future Store in Rheinberg, Germany, this Saturday at 1:00 PM.
"While METRO's announcement was encouraging, it did not go far enough,"
said Rena Tangens, Founder of FoeBud. "We are asking METRO to comply
with the terms of a position statement that calls for a moratorium on
item-level product tagging until all of the serious privacy issues are
addressed."

FoeBuD will be joined by representatives from 13 other German privacy
organizations.

METRO AG is Germany's largest retailer and the fifth largest retailer in
the world. METRO runs more than 2,000 stores in 28 countries, including
the UK, Spain, France, China, Japan and India. Their holdings include
supermarkets, department stores, home improvement stores and electronics
stores that operate under names like Cash & Carry, Real and Extra.

Because of its global reach, METRO's policies have an impact on millions
of consumers worldwide.

Information about the protest and the implications of the METRO RFID
initiatives can be found at the CASPIAN RFID web site: www.spychips.com
or at the FoeBuD web site:
http://www.foebud.org/texte/aktion/rfid/demo/callfd.htm.

CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering)
is a grass-roots consumer group fighting retail surveillance schemes
since 1999, and item-level RFID tagging since 2002. With members in all
50 U.S. states and over 20 nations across the globe, CASPIAN seeks to
educate consumers about marketing strategies that invade their privacy
and to encourage privacy-conscious shopping habits across the retail
spectrum.

For more information, see http://www.spychips.com
and http://www.nocards.org.
Katherine Albrecht, CASPIAN Founder and Director: (877) 287-5854
Liz McIntyre, CASPIAN Communications: (877) 287-5854
or liz@nocards.org

###

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting! And this:

Quote:
"METRO and its partners were blindsided by the consumer backlash," said
Albrecht, explaining METRO's retreat. "This demonstrates the power of
the free market at work. The world's people are telling global
businesses like METRO, Procter & Gamble, and Gillette that they won't
tolerate being spied on through products and services."
Shame on you

Amen to that! Most of the supermarkets in my area have the club cards. I prefer to shop at the one that does not use them. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me started on those West Coast grocery stores. Not only do they all have cards, but they won't give you any slack if you don't have one. Though I do miss the no sales tax on food. Hope you have that same perk in Cali.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello nick
where is it that they tax food? any government that would tax food would have to be some type of desperate totalitarian regime.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Virginia, the land of some strange taxes. Although, in my travels, I've come appreciate the low 4.5% sales tax.. For food, it's only 3%, soon to be lower and eventually phased out.

Now in Washington State, there may not have been any sales tax (which is 8.8% BTW) but when it costs $4 for a gallon of milk in one the the largest dairy producers in the US, you know somethings wrong. If there was a special with those club cards, it would be something like 3 galllons of milk for $7. If you only bought 1 gallon, no discount for you. Being single, I don't need 3 gallons of milk, so what am I going to do with all that milk? To be fair, sometimes it would be a $1.99 for one gallon, but not often enough.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
more on the rfid
Utah Leads the Way Toward RFID Privacy Legislation |
| from the good-for-something dept. |
| posted by michael on Friday February 27, @16:01 (privacy) |
| http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/27/183213 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+

An anonymous reader writes "Wired News reports that Utah's House of
Representatives passed the first-ever [0]RFID privacy bill this week,
47-23. Utah state Rep. David Hogue said that without laws to ensure
consumer privacy, retailers will be tempted to match the data gathered by
RFID readers with consumers' personal information. 'The RFID industry
will carry the technology as far as they can,' said Hogue, sponsor of the
Radio Frequency Identification Right to Know Act. 'Marketing people
especially are going to love this kind of stuff.'"

Discuss this story at:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=04/02/27/183213

Links:
0. http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,62433,00.html

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
Welcome to Virginia, the land of some strange taxes. Although, in my travels, I've come appreciate the low 4.5% sales tax.. For food, it's only 3%, soon to be lower and eventually phased out.

Now in Washington State, there may not have been any sales tax (which is 8.8% BTW) but when it costs $4 for a gallon of milk in one the the largest dairy producers in the US, you know somethings wrong. If there was a special with those club cards, it would be something like 3 galllons of milk for $7. If you only bought 1 gallon, no discount for you. Being single, I don't need 3 gallons of milk, so what am I going to do with all that milk? To be fair, sometimes it would be a $1.99 for one gallon, but not often enough.

4$ a gallon for milk in a state thats a veary large producer. you know who has the goverment in there pocket than! its like province ontario they put extream large quantities of salt on the roads in winter. there excuse its clears the roads. the real reson is to rust out cars quickly so they can force you to buy a new one every 5 years or less!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
this looks like a slight improvment of rfid tags. maby too little too late.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/35852.html

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CASPIAN Newsletter <newsletter@nocards.org>
Sent : March 2, 2004 1:31:33 PM
To : newsletter@nocards.org
Subject : PHOTOS ONLINE: Germans brave the snow to protest spy chips

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It's finally online! Stop by our website for a photographic tour of the
METRO Future Store and see for yourself the RFID privacy problems and
scandals I uncovered there during my tour in January.

http://www.spychips.com/metro

Considering the results (an avalanche of negative press for METRO and a
German consumer revolt!) I'd say the trip was a smashing success.

The global RFID chippers are running scared, as well they should be.

In freedom,

Katherine Albrecht
Founder and Director, CASPIAN

==========================================================================
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

March 2, 2004

RFID Revolt in Rheinberg: Germans brave snow to protest spy chips
CASPIAN posts photos, launches website exposing METRO scandals

Nearly fifty German consumers braved the aftermath of a freak snowstorm
Saturday to protest RFID privacy invasion in front of the METRO Extra
Future Store in Rheinberg, Germany. This in response to a scandal in
which the store was caught embedding RFID tracking devices in their
“loyalty” cards and misleading consumers about RFID tags on products
like Gillette razors and Kraft cream cheese.

The US consumer group CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy
Invasion and Numbering) has posted pictures of the protest online at
http://www.spychips.com/metro/protest.html as part of its "METRO Future
Store Special Report" website being launched today. The website offers a
photographic tour of the METRO Future Store and highlights problems
discovered there by CASPIAN Founder Katherine Albrecht during her
January visit.

Revelations of RFID tags in the store’s “loyalty card” and RFID product
tags that couldn’t be completely disabled led to a media onslaught and
public outcry across Germany. Days before the protest, METRO dropped its
RFID card and promised to replace the 10,000 already in circulation.

However, METRO failed to address its use of RFID tags on consumer items,
said Rena Tangens, Founder of the German privacy organization FoeBuD.
"While METRO's announcement was encouraging, it did not go far enough.
So protesters marched four kilometers through the town of Rheinberg to
demand that METRO comply with an international call for a moratorium on
item-level RFID product tagging. We also want them to fund a forum of
consumer and citizen protagonists to review the implications of the
technology."

“Having fifty people show up anywhere is a feat,” said CASPIAN's
Albrecht. "Having fifty people show up in two feet of snow when roads
are closed and public transportation is crippled is evidence of how
strongly the German people oppose these dangerous RFID experiments.”

METRO's Extra Future Store is the industry's showplace for RFID tracking
technology. There, companies like Gillette, Procter & Gamble, and IBM
have been testing the technology on live consumers in what the press has
called a "life-sized petri dish."

Reportedly, METRO executives were surprised to see that consumers cared
enough to brave the weather. As a gesture of goodwill, they offered
protesters hot soup.

“It’s going to take more than soup to bridge the divide,” said CASPIAN's
Albrecht. “Global businesses like METRO, Procter & Gamble and Gillette
need to realize that consumers won’t tolerate being spied on through
products and services, and consumers will continue to speak out until
they get that message. It's time the world's people leave these abusive
businesses and switch to ones that respect their privacy and civil
liberties. That’s how the free market works.”

The "METRO Future Store Special Report" is online at:
http://www.spychips.com/metro

==========================================================

CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering)
is a grass-roots consumer group fighting retail surveillance schemes
since 1999, and item-level RFID tagging since 2002. With members in all
50 U.S. states and over 20 nations across the globe, CASPIAN seeks to
educate consumers about marketing strategies that invade their privacy
and to encourage privacy-conscious shopping habits across the retail
spectrum.

For more information, see http://www.spychips.com
and http://www.nocards.org

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them

Adapted from a letter sent to Henry Makow Ph.D.

Want to share an event with you, that we experienced this evening.. Dave had over $1000 dollars in his back pocket (in his wallet). New twenties were the lion share of the bills in his wallet. We walked into a truck stop/travel plaza and they have those new electronic monitors that are supposed to say if you are stealing something. But through every monitor, Dave set it off. He did not have anything to purchase in his hands or pockets. After numerous times of setting off these monitors, a person approached Dave with a 'wand' to swipe why he was setting off the monitors.

Believe it or not, it was his 'wallet'. That is according to the minimum wage employees working at the truck stop! We then walked across the street to a store and purchased aluminum foil. We then wrapped our cash in foil and went thru the same monitors. No monitor went off.

We could have left it at that, but we have also paid attention to the European Union and the 'rfid' tracking devices placed in their money, and the blatant bragging of Walmart and many corporations of using 'rfid' electronics on every marketable item by the year 2005.

Dave and I have brainstormed the fact that most items can be 'microwaved' to fry the 'rfid' chip, thus elimination of tracking by our government.

So we chose to 'microwave' our cash, over $1000 in twenties in a stack, not spread out on a carasoul. Do you know what exploded on American money?? The right eye of Andrew Jackson on the new twenty, every bill was uniform in it's burning... Isnt that interesting?

Now we have to take all of our bills to the bank and have them replaced, cause they are now 'burnt'.

We will now be wrapping all of our larger bills in foil on a regular basis.

What we resent is the fact that the government or a corporation can track our 'cash'. Credit purchases and check purchases have been tracked for years, but cash was not traceble until now...

Dave and Denise

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't normally do something I read on the net, but I went ahead and nuked a new $20 in the microwave. Did it for 10 seconds and nothing happened. Then tried 1 minute and nothing happened. I watched while doing it and looked all over the bill, but nothing. I guess i got the good money.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick hello
it seems its the newest 20.00 that ae doing this and not all. it as if your federal treasury depart.did a test run slashdot did an artical on it.


Do Your $20 Bills Explode In the Microwave? |
| from the met-alex-once-at-the-branch-davidian-compound dept. |
| posted by timothy on Tuesday March 02, @01:14 (money) |
| http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/02/0535225 |
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msaulters writes "After repeatedly setting off RFID scanners in a truck
stop, the author discovered the culprit was a wad of $20's in his back
pocket. In a paranoid attempt to keep the government from tracking him,
he attempted to fry the embedded chips in his microwave, with
[0]interesting results." Alex Jones has interesting theories about a
number of things, but evidently a lot of readers were interested in this
one.

Discuss this story at:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=04/03/02/0535225

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GERMAN REVOLT AGAINST RFID
Metro Group has abandoned a trial of RFID radio tags, after
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http://www.net-security.org/news.php?id=4729

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WARNING!!! YOU MUST READ THIS!!! Klaxon, the internet Chicken Little, raises the alarm for each and every paranoid conspiracy theory, Federal Big-Brother scheme, internet hoax, and latest computer virus. No black helicopter alert is so ludicrous, no urban legend so implausible, that he will not pass it along as accepted fact (in ALL CAPS with multiple exclamation marks). Congratulations, you are recipient 16,747 of today's Urban Myth. CAUTION: Often Klaxon knowingly posts false alarms to foment mischief.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the RFID is a valid concern. There probably is some hype about it, but the problem is that little by little these things creep in and pretty soon the average citizen has lost his/her privacy.

Another similar issue is that of cell phone tracking. Here is an article about it in Spyware Weekly by Mike Healan.

http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/cell_phones/

This kind of technology has it's benefits, but there is also a huge potential for abuse IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:24 am    Post subject: The pet dog Reply with quote

There's a story I like to tell when the time seems appropriate and it seems fitting here. It's about freedom but isn't privacy a form of freedom?

You take a dog and chain him to a doghouse in the back yard on a 10 foot chain. You treat him well, feed him good and he's reasonably happy with his roaming area. But each and every month you remove one link in that chain. He won't even notice the difference. By the time he lives out his natural life and dies, he'll only have one inch of chain left and he never even noticed his freedom being taken away.

Many governments operate this way. They understand that whittling away at your rights a little at a time will go unnoticed by most. Those minor inconveniences of having a small portion of your privacy or freedom removed add up!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx suzi
and nms thats a good point on freedom!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The story of the dog makes me want to cry. I'm an animal lover. I know it's an analogy but still... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suzi think of how a persons life loses the same amount of freedom. how do you feel?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good and valid question. But the difference is that people have the ability to think things through and make choices and decisions, for the most part anyway. I suppose that in China, for instance, their choices are a lot more limited in many areas.

An animal (a pet) is at the mercy of the people who own it, or control it. And it does not have the ability to think and reason things out for itself like a human does.

Of course I think it's very wrong for people's freedoms to be taken away by force (unless they are criminals). Unfortunately many people are apathetic and don't get involved in the issues that cause them to lose their freedoms until it's too late, if ever.

That's why a discussion of things like RFID is good because it stimulates people to get information, think about it, form opinions and make decisions. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello suzi
the above mentioned aniamal is none exsistant.
but"An animal (a pet) is at the mercy of the people who own it, or control it. And it does not have the ability to think and reason things out for itself like a human does. "
people in many situations are more or less owned by the state or goverment in more ways than one. and as you lose more freedoms every year you will be tottaly own not free like in gegorge orwells 1984!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Dave, it is possible and a terrible thing. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the past couple of years, retailers have embraced new technologies with
gusto. Wal-Mart of the US has mandated that its top suppliers incorporate RFID
technology into their operations by 2005.
http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=11758

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: back on topic! Reply with quote

The future of retailing
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Over the past couple of years, retailers have embraced new technologies with
gusto. Wal-Mart of the US has mandated that its top suppliers incorporate RFID
technology into their operations by 2005.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Department Of Defense Turns To IBM For RFID Expertise March 17, 2004




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The three-year consulting contract includes services to help the department develop a strategy for using RFID to improve its supply system and inventory management.
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The U.S. Department of Defense will get advice from IBM on how it should use radio-frequency identification tags to track suppliers' shipments.
The department last year said it wants its suppliers to attach RFID tags to its goods by Jan. 1, 2005. IBM said the three-year consulting contract is aimed at helping the department develop by June 30 a strategy for using the technology to improve its supply system and inventory management. IBM will help to determine a budget and funding, as well as oversee the pilots during the next few months and help implement the RFID technology after the deadline passes. Terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

"The Defense Department is seeking to take advantage of the inherent capabilities of RFID technology to improve business functions and all aspects of the defense supply chain," William Phillips, an IBM Business Consulting Services partner and a defense industry leader, said in a statement. "We are pleased to be able to provide the management services that can help the department achieve its goals."

RFID technology is in its infancy, but proponents say it will bring higher returns on investment once companies understand how to leverage the mound of information stored in the tags, bringing new efficiencies and making supply-chain business processes more affordable.

The Defense Department has more than 43,000 suppliers, with its top 100 accounting for 80% of the dollar value of its supplies, according to Meta Group analysts.

IBM's Phillips said the DOD has been in touch with Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and other key players in the RFID industry over the months as it has worked on figuring out its strategy.

IBM will also provide the technical expertise to ensure that RFID deployments will be synchronized with Defense policies and compatible with standards to protect and secure data contained in RFID tags.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the latest news on this!
Lawmakers Alarmed by RFID Spying

Utah's House of Representatives passed the first-ever RFID privacy bill ..., 47-23. Utah state Rep. David Hogue said that without laws to ensure consumer privacy, retailers will be tempted to match the data gathered by RFID readers with consumers' personal information.

"The RFID industry will carry the technology as far as they can," said Hogue, sponsor of the Radio Frequency Identification Right to Know Act. "Marketing people especially are going to love this kind of stuff."

Utah's Right to Know Act is based on federal legislation drafted by the consumer privacy group Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering, or CASPIAN. It requires all goods bearing functioning RFID tags in stores to be labeled as such. The bill will take effect May 5, 2005, if it is approved by the Utah state Senate and Utah Gov. Olene S. Walker.

More: http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,62433,00.html


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that article too. Those Utah legislators are concernd about spyware too and past a law about it. Good for them!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
utah might be passing spyware laws but they need to pass one agianst sco!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Microsoft forms its own RFID group Reply with quote

Microsoft is out to take a more formal role in the development of radio frequency identification technology.

The software giant says it is forming the Microsoft Radio Frequency Identification Council, which is set to hold its first meeting this month. Participants in the group include Accenture, GlobeRanger, Intermec Technologies and Provia Software.

Microsoft said it will be providing a "platform" on which the partners can create RFID-based products and services, drawing on its own Windows CE operating system, SQL Server database and BizTalk Server software.

The companies will be tackling a highly touted technology still in its early stages. RFID systems combine microchips and wireless gadgetry to provide tiny tracking devices for products, with the resulting set-ups expected to streamline supply chains and help retailers keep better records of their inventory.

But the switchover from bar codes to RFID tags isn't happening as fast as some had hoped. Suppliers to retailer Wal-Mart Stores, for instance, aren't likely to meet the target Wal-Mart set for adoption of the technology, according to a recent study.

"With RFID in the early stages of adoption, we are continuing to expand and evolve our partner-driven strategy based on the needs of the industry," said Javed Sikander, a program manager for RFID strategy at Microsoft.

Microsoft, like competitors Oracle and IBM, is working to develop middleware for RFID systems. In January, it added RFID technology to its Axapta Warehouse Management software for small and midsize businesses.

The company has also joined forces with EPCglobal, an organization that is developing RFID standards for the Electronic Product Code Network.




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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link about Walmart using RFID also.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ttzd/20040401/tc_techtues_zd/123332&cid=1739&ncid=1729

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It's hard to feel sorry for Wal-Mart, by far the nation's largest company. But it does seem that Wal-Mart can't catch a break on RFID.


First, Wal-Mart stores in Brockton, Mass., and Broken Arrow, Okla., were caught secretly running trials of RFID-tagged items, such as Gillette's razors, to see if the tags could help keep the stores' shelves stocked and prevent shoplifting. Consumer privacy advocates screamed foul, and the tests were quickly shut down. A number of consumer privacy groups subsequently issued a position paper on RFID. Wal-Mart said little publicly about the shutdown, though industry observers attribute it mostly to the fact that RFID is still too expensive for efficient in-store tagging.


There's more in the article.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello suzi
thats an interesting read in that link with some real good links to check out and read allso!!!.
big brother may not be tottaly watching use yet but will be soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:31 am    Post subject: WATCHDOGS PUSH FOR RFID LAWS Reply with quote

WATCHDOGS PUSH FOR RFID LAWS
Companies push to keep RFID tags active once they are out of the
store, but critics say that won't play well with privacy advocates
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone selling our products violates our (RFID) privacy policies, we will stop doing business with them," said Sandra Hughes, P&G's global privacy executive.


Of course we believe them. Don't we??????


"Privacy is cheap," said Peter Glaser, senior manager of client workshops at Accenture Technology Labs, which is developing a smart medicine cabinet and a smart closet, which use RFID readers to encourage people to take their medicine and help them coordinate their wardrobes. "Companies just need to tell consumers what's in it for them."


I can see us soon not working for salaries, have everything tagged, they will tell us when we need to replace an item, get new clothes etc, we go online and use credits we've earned for the goods. Now where have I seen that before?????

never mind the big corporations will look after us.
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